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The Existence Of God

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MonicaTTmed wrote:
There were many witnesses to his teachings, the places named are real places, and finally, there is much archeological evidence that supports the bible if you do a google-search.
http://jesusneverexisted.com/
Countless sources.
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There are actually some 200 gospels, epistles and other books concerning the life of Jesus Christ. Writing such material was a popular literary form, particularly in the 2nd century. The pious fantasies competed with Greek romantic fiction. Political considerations in the late 2nd century led to the selection of just four approved gospels and the rejection of others. After three centuries of wrangling 23 other books were accepted by the Church as divinely inspired. The rest were declared 'pious frauds'. In truth, the whole lot belongs to a genre of literary FICTION.
This was a bald-faced lie made up for the Da-Vinci code. There are many books on the subject that you can read about it. If part of the site if false, I'm not terribly inclined to believe the rest of it.

EDIT: Oh, and lass time i checked, that was one site, not multiple, so it was one source, not countless...
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Devestator © wrote:
MonicaTTmed wrote:
There were many witnesses to his teachings, the places named are real places, and finally, there is much archeological evidence that supports the bible if you do a google-search.
http://jesusneverexisted.com/
Countless sources.
Pulled out of said site:
There are actually some 200 gospels, epistles and other books concerning the life of Jesus Christ. Writing such material was a popular literary form, particularly in the 2nd century. The pious fantasies competed with Greek romantic fiction. Political considerations in the late 2nd century led to the selection of just four approved gospels and the rejection of others. After three centuries of wrangling 23 other books were accepted by the Church as divinely inspired. The rest were declared 'pious frauds'. In truth, the whole lot belongs to a genre of literary FICTION.
This was a bald-faced lie made up for the Da-Vinci code. There are many books on the subject that you can read about it. If part of the site if false, I'm not terribly inclined to believe the rest of it.

EDIT: Oh, and lass time i checked, that was one site, not multiple, so it was one source, not countless...
It's one website. Go to any page, look at the grey box at the top. There is a list of sourceS (PLURAL) on every page.

Out of curiosity, which page did you find the offending quote on? And, you're saying that the statement "The bible is fiction" is a lie, thereby also saying that the bible is true. You're the one making a positive statement. Prove it.
And if we're the only planet with life on it, then it couldn't have been nature that did it (probability says there's a planet somewhere within this temperature range). This implies divine intervention, aka God.
Temperature isn't the only factor. So is chemical makeup of the planet, having all the right chemicals in the same area, etc.

Plus, this could be turned right back on you. If we're the only planet with life and god exists, why did he create so many dud planets? Even planets that we could never travel to (you know, the ones that are lightyears away)? Did he try a few trillion times and finally get it right, or did he just want to tease us with so many places to be even though we could never get to any of them?
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MonicaTTmed wrote: It's one website. Go to any page, look at the grey box at the top. There is a list of sourceS (PLURAL) on every page.

Out of curiosity, which page did you find the offending quote on? And, you're saying that the statement "The bible is fiction" is a lie, thereby also saying that the bible is true. You're the one making a positive statement. Prove it.
And if we're the only planet with life on it, then it couldn't have been nature that did it (probability says there's a planet somewhere within this temperature range). This implies divine intervention, aka God.
Temperature isn't the only factor. So is chemical makeup of the planet, having all the right chemicals in the same area, etc.

Plus, this could be turned right back on you. If we're the only planet with life and god exists, why did he create so many dud planets? Even planets that we could never travel to (you know, the ones that are lightyears away)? Did he try a few trillion times and finally get it right, or did he just want to tease us with so many places to be even though we could never get to any of them?
I found it on the main page. Do a Control F search for it.

For one insists on ME proving it, you seem keen to prove it.

As stated in this link also, its nigh impossible for me to make you believe in God. I can give proof until we both have white beards, but if your mind is set, unless Jesus appears and talks to you, there will be no change.

http://www.everystudent.com/features/isthere.html

Do I look like God? If not, why would I have any idea whatsoever why he does what he does?
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If there were any other life forms in the universe, why haven't they ever contacted us?
Well couldn't that question be reversed and have us as the aliens?

I don't doubt the existence of other life forms, but what WOULD make them smarter than us?
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As stated in this link also, its nigh impossible for me to make you believe in God. I can give proof until we both have white beards, but if your mind is set, unless Jesus appears and talks to you, there will be no change.
Yeah, I've been wondering why he doesn't do that.
Do I look like God? If not, why would I have any idea whatsoever why he does what he does?
Because not only do you claim to know that he exists, you claim to know what he likes and doesn't like (from the bible).
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As a simple observer... I find it funny that not long ago Monica was passionately defending the Catholic faith against me, but due to outstanding circumstances which made it impossible for me to answer my yahoo email account, I could not read them until she was passionately destroying Christianity.

On another side note, I also find it funny that Firefox has forced me to capitalize Christianity.

On the subject...

I respect other's views.
I am tolerant, and I do not evangelize because ultimately the issue is "freewill."
We all have the ability to make our own decisions
You cannot force someone to accept something they do not believe.
Hence if they do not want to hear it, they should not have to.

Something like Christianity should be taken at face value by the unbeliever because they have the obligation to.
Christianity should be evangelized not by words, but by the principals it stands for.

Unfortunately, Christians tend to be the most screwed up people in this world and do not practice what they preach.
So what in the wide world of sports do you think the unbeliever should think of Christianity and of its Christians if they themselves do not follow their own religion.

In my opinion the Christians should shut up and the atheists should stop being anal.
I am on neither of your sides and you should both quit it.

Off topic...
I find it funny that Firefox did not force me to capitalize atheism.
I also find it funny that you guys think communism is a bad thing.
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did he just want to tease us with so many places to be even though we could never get to any of them?
Just because we havn't got to them yet, doesn't mean we won't.... It wasn't so long ago that people doubted that man could ever leave this planet...
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Come on, people. Is it impossible to believe in both God and scientific principles, and create your own explanations for things based on a combination of them? :idea:
Hey, someone needs to be a moderate in all this... :)
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Post by get some »

i find it curious that in the absence of a reasonable explanation people so readily turn to the concept of God as a reason.

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