Tax the Rich!!!

[KKB]

Geez what a bunch of idiots here.
No wonder our edumacation system is so forked up.

Well said truck driver!!!

[fishtank]

Well said truck driver!!!

*Chef
Douchebaggedly said, salesman?!!

[Mighty Mouse]

Geez what a bunch of idiots here.

My wife works for the school system here and she admits that she is overpaid for what she does. $24 bucks an hour and she has to look for things to do. She feels guilty.

No wonder our society is so fucked up.

@KKB that was your post so I concluded from the post that being paid $24 for essentially looking for work to do felt like she was gaming the system.

However, the later post

I make really good money. My wife DOES NOT have to work.

She feels the need to do something. She loves her work, maybe thats why she feels she is overpaid.

she feels she would be overpaid no matter what she is paid because you make good money and she is in the line of work because she loves what she is doing, not because you guys need the money.

I don't see the logical connection between the posts or the topic being discussed. Call me an idiot.

[stinkfingers]

oh, he'll call you an idiot.

I'm just not sure it's actually an insult when the dumb guy calls you dumb.

[LGM]

Good article:

There's a growing income gap in America, but it's not necessarily between the rich and the poor.

It's between the super rich and everyone else. Or as George W. Bush once quipped at a swanky campaign dinner, "the haves and the have-mores."

A bit of it regarding "trickle down" economics...

Most research shows that a rapid rise in the top tiers of income started around the 1970s. There are various theories as to what kicked off the trend. But experts tend to agree on one thing: The continued upward trajectory for America's wealthy elite, which far outpaces that of the average American worker, was helped in large part by public policy.

"Deregulation of the financial sector seems to have created greater risk for the economy as a whole, and pushed up incomes at the top," said Jacob Hacker, Yale political science professor and co-author of the book "Winner-Take-All Politics."

Hacker argues that instead of "trickle-down economics" -- a theory that says rising wealth for those at the top eventually benefits everyone -- there's been a trickle-up effect.

Here's the piece on CNN's site

It even has good charts for stinkfingers!

[Cloud]

The funny thing is that state run prisons are much better facilities.

How so, Cloud? Been in many state prisons? How many private run prisons have you been in? Serving time are we? You can't expect to make a statement like that an not be called out on it.

I've toured every single Pennsylvania State Prison for a work project a few years ago that required a site survey of every prison. They are a perfect model of inefficiency. Oddly, we were delivering a technology solution for a PRIVATE company that was allowing the State to save money on healthcare costs.

Health care in the prison industry is provided free by the government

No it's not. It's paid to private industry by your tax dollars.

http://www.wexfordhealth.com/

Trust me, Wexford Health doesn't perform their service for sharts and giggles. You and I pay for that. It's not free. Private industry pays attention to costs because it is trying to turn a profit. Governments don't pay attention to costs because they aren't trying to turn a profit.

The privatization of the prison industry gave private companies more money

Which they pay taxes on, and their employees pay tax on their earnings from such company. And the company doesn't needlessly piss away money then raise taxes when they need more. The contract gets put out to bid, and if someone else has a better deal, then THEY get the business.

Furthermore, That's Rand Paul in that video, not Ron Paul. My kid says stupid chit too, but it doesn't get attributed to me.

I wonder... Did you watch the entire video? I'll help you smacky. Go to 2:10 in the video.

I like your personal anecdote. It must be like that for every private prison, for every private payment, for every private "anything" to do with Private prisons. The whole point of the thread is the fraud that Arizona republicans did.

[stinkfingers]

Smacky, a return to the fallacy of false equivalence?

You honestly think that there is a substantive equivalence between Rush L., Glenn Beck and Maddow, Mathews and Maher?

First of all, you need to let Mathews outta this: he's an equal opportunity suck up (See his comments on Bush during the "mission accomplished" spectacle). He practically spawned sympathy wood talking about how presidential Bush looked in his jump-suit.

I take it you've never seen Maddow. Let me key you guys on the right into something: liberals are very found of something called skepticism. Have you heard of it? Well, it is the foundation of science, for one thing. Maddow takes a very skeptical approach to everything she covers, and she examines her own prejudices, biases and perspectives regularly. Which is why she argues from the established facts. And also why she will admit it when she is proven wrong...and get this...she will then revise her perspective, and move forward with the new information. She won't just keep repeating her false beliefs ad nauseum.

Clearly, I don't have to make the case in reverse for the lunatic Beck, or the angry white tool Limbaugh. Not only do they completely lack the ability to question their own motives, they are both disdainful of skepticism in particular in whatever guise it takes.

Beck and Limbaugh argue from their prejudices, and where facts are convenient, they cherry pick them; where they are not, the make them up of whole cloth. They are a study in logical fallacy, and in Beck's case, madness.

Maher on the other hand goes off half-cocked, and says some cogent sh*t for every crazy notion that leaves his mouth. But hey, he's a comedian. You get that, right?

[Rogue]

Sympathy wood? Heh, that's pretty funny. Good post.

[stinkfingers]

Thanks, doughnuts

Here's an interesting take on the economy by Clinton:

http://news.yahoo.com/decade-difference-concert/

Good initial rant on the republican's revolt of the rich in the early part of the clip. generally interesting take, but funny...he omits his role in pushing through NAFTA which is one of the biggest reasons we won't be recovering from this recession anytime soon.

[JJ]

OK, MM, after the opening paragraph --

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. --That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed...

@ Professor Stinkfingers

Surprised you didn't pick up on being labelled a Social Democrat of 1930 Germany. You should have be happy. Not National Socialist German Workers' Party (Nazi) but this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Dem ... of_Germany

Their party platform is Obama's: "The party sees that economic system as necessary in order to ensure the affluence of the entire population." Obama, the next Willy Brant.

This tax the rich thing is just another bait-and-switch from you leftists. The Meme of the Month.

It grieves me that the Republicans and other conservatives are dumb enough to rise to it. Or lower to it. The richest organization is the federal gov't. Let's stop them from taking everyone's money, the welchers.

Here's link that was busted in my last post --

http://www.politico.com/politico44/perm ... 59b72.html

Find it humorous that Comcast, a big evil corporate giant, is sucking money from the pockets of the common people -- lots of whom play TT or some such -- but then turns around and forces its workers to support the take-from-the-rich Democrats. Makes you dizzy, doesn't it?

Edit: Looking back again, I see the link wasn't busted. Oh well, still fun...