Obama Tax Cuts Plan?

[Mighty Mouse]

Unfortunately KKB, Republicans tend to support policies to support the rich. Dems support policies that tend to favor the rich with a guilty conscience. But what it takes to get into power is money, which the rich have but not so much the not so rich. However, overriding all of this is that the only ones who can afford to run for office are those with access to those in power, who tend to be rich. the rich don't like to feel guilty about being rich, and those who feel guilty about being rich and want to help, don't think being in a cesspool with thousands of politicians is the best way.

sad but true.

[KKB]

Baba, Mighty mouse and the rest; you guys do not get it.

The Dems want trickle up economy so that all the poor and soon the rest of us become reliant on all the freebie roses smell good!.

the left are the real power mongers. look at all the real rich people in this country. Gates and the likes. They are rich, but they are not republican. They are filthy rich, but want to tax the "wealthy". they are surely excluded.

Poo on you for living in a fake world.

History repeats itself. Nazi Germany in a new form?

Not really,but somewhat close.

The rich German families like Krup and the like had a big hand in government before and during WW2.

Like smacky said, im tired.

[Mighty Mouse]

U.S. auto manufacturers and their advocates in Congress have long complained about unfair non-tariff barriers. It turns out that these were the Korean safety and environmental standards that U.S. cars were unable to meet. In a special exemption for U.S. cars, up to 25,000 cars per U.S. manufacturer can now enter Korea with lower safety standards than Korean cars. Environmental standards—and labor standards, for that matter—have always been dubious subjects of FTAs, ones with their own built-in constituencies and special interest advocates. But in a very interesting, hypocritical twist, under the new KORUS, it is U.S. auto manufacturers who are given the exemptions from meeting higher environmental standards.

As part of the redeployment, USFK also plans to build new facilities to improve quality of life for American soldiers stationed in Korea. According to the military newspaper Stars and Stripes, those amenities include a new fitness center at Camp Humphreys "complete with a gym, indoor pool, running track, and four-story parking garage."

In addition to an eight-lane, 25-meter indoor swimming pool, the center will feature a 626-foot indoor running track; separate rooms for cardio fitness, circuit training, free weights, and group exercise; basketball and racquetball courts; a martial arts training room; and climbing walls, the newspaper added.

But Korean farmers chafe at the idea their land will be taken away so foreign soldiers can feel more comfortable.

"They don't want to move," Father Moon said of the farmers, many of whom are elderly. "They refused their compensation. They don't want to leave their homeland. They don't want this experience for a third time."

While villagers in South Korea go on hunger strike to protest the American base extension, another group of farmers has descended on Washington to protest a proposed Free Trade Agreement (FTA) between Washington and Seoul. The U.S. and South Korean governments are conducting a round of negotiations in the capital this week

The protesting delegation is lead by the Korean trade union movement and the Korean Advanced Farmers Federation, who complain that free trade has meant plummeting rice prices in Korea leading to massive bankruptcies.

"Even before the FTA the cost of rice cultivation is now higher than the price that farmers can get," said Lee Heung Se, vice chair of the Korean Advanced Farmers Federations. "Now we have high farming debt and many farmers leave the countryside and come to large cities. Small schools in the countryside continue to close and the farmers who move to the city for jobs are having difficulty adjusting to city life, finding housing, and securing education for their children."

"In the end when its time to pay off the debt many are so discouraged that hundreds are committing suicide each year," he added.

The Korean delegation has the support of America's major labor federations Change to Win and the AFL-CIO.

"This administration seems to think that 'free trade' means they get to freely trade workers' rights and protections for the benefit and profit of global corporations," the chair of Change to Win, Anna Burger, said in a statement. "We need fair trade, not trade that leads to fewer jobs, lower pay, worsened working conditions, and environmental degradation."

U.S. labor groups compared a possible FTA with Korea with the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) between the U.S., Canada and Mexico.

<strong>Labor groups blamed NAFTA for the loss of more than 1 million jobs and job opportunities in the U.S., and increasing downward pressure on both U.S. and Mexican wages.</strong> They also pointed to the economic problems in Korea that have led to an increased speculative investment and "jobless growth" and expressed concern that the proposed FTA could accelerate and deepen these trends.

For Korean unionist Lee Heung Se, there is a parallel between his group's opposition to the Free Trade Agreement and the Pyongtaek farmers' protests against a new military base.

"The Pyongtaek farmers struggle against the U.S. military base is a struggle against the U.S. military domination in our country and the struggle against the free trade agreement is a struggle against U.S. economic domination on Korean farmers," he said. "In this way, the two struggles are connected."

[Mighty Mouse]

Baba, Mighty mouse and the rest; you guys do not get it.

The Dems want trickle up economy so that all the poor and soon the rest of us become reliant on all the freebie roses smell good!.

the left are the real power mongers. look at all the real rich people in this country. Gates and the likes. They are rich, but they are not republican. They are filthy rich, but want to tax the "wealthy". they are surely excluded.

Poo on you for living in a fake world.

History repeats itself. Nazi Germany in a new form?

Not really,but somewhat close.

The rich German families like Krup and the like had a big hand in government before and during WW2.

Like smacky said, im tired.

Sometimes I lose track of your thinking. I am for less government, not more. I'm of the belief that less taxes for all, the better. But there are services only government can provide. It's those critical services which should be the focus of government, not all of those extraneous entitlement programs.

Let's remember that there are rich people who are Republicans. Do I need to list them here like you did for Dems? We all know who they are. There are rich people on all sides of the aisle, it's just that the side you chose to criticize have been more vocal as of late on the responsibilities of the rich.

Yes, the poor are big constituencies of the Dems, but have you asked yourself why that is? It's because they need help and in a system with essentially only 2 parties, Dems are the more palatable choice. Maybe that's demagoguery, but what Republican policy do you think promises them anything similar, be it heartfelt or not?

I am neither Republican nor Democrat because of my religious affiliation, but also because it offends me that my view of the world should be colored to one side because of politics. I look at the policies both sides has to offer before I criticize and choose the best each has to offer.

Personally, I don't really see this as the next coming of Nazi Germany. There have been plenty of history on the concentration of political power in the capital of a nation which did not kill millions. It's a matter of course of politics that those who do not have to worry about making a living are the ones who are more vocal and active in politics. It's just that the US economic system has made many wealthy people who do not have to worry about putting food on the table and they choose elsewhere to focus their energies. Good for them.

[44]

KKB is blue collar, applauds a tax cut for the rich and complains about the growing deficit. Would probably be funny if he were the only one.

[Cloud]

Baba, Mighty mouse and the rest; you guys do not get it.

The Dems want trickle up economy so that all the poor and soon the rest of us become reliant on all the freebie roses smell good!.

the left are the real power mongers. look at all the real rich people in this country. Gates and the likes. They are rich, but they are not republican. They are filthy rich, but want to tax the "wealthy". they are surely excluded.

Poo on you for living in a fake world.

History repeats itself. Nazi Germany in a new form?

Not really,but somewhat close.

The rich German families like Krup and the like had a big hand in government before and during WW2.

Like smacky said, im tired.

KKB, I have a serious question for you. If you were placed randomly in one of these income brackets, which country would you want to be in? Give me an honest answer.

Country A
Top 20%: 18% of country's wealth
next 20%: 36% of country's wealth
next 20%: 15% of country's wealth
next 20%: 21% of country's wealth
bottom 20%: 11% of country's wealth

Country B
Top 20%: 84% of country's wealth
next 20%: 11% of country's wealth
next 20%: 4% of country's wealth
next 20%: 0.2% of country's wealth
bottom 20%: 0.1 of country's wealth

Country C
Equal Distribution of Wealth (20%)

[Mighty Mouse]

@Smacky . . . I did understand your perspective. I added those posts so that others can understand some of the rhetoric. But let's also remember, Korea can come out ahead of the US in the long run off this deal, but still come out behind where they are now. It's not always if you lose we win. They can both stand to lose if you consider the labor side and corporate side independent of each other.

On a side note, Koreans are famous for being intimately involved with their entertainers. They have driven some who have had brushes with the law to leave the country and swear publicly to never embarrass the country ever again. It is sometimes funny to see how far Koreans go in their expression of political opinions and their love of entertainment.

@Cloud, that is an unfair question. The assumption would be that you are operating with similar pies. What if in an economic system, the top 20% drive economic growth and the concentration of wealth in that section drive growth so that B's pie is larger than anyone else's? Economics is an uncertain science for sure, but your question needs to answer that first. Marginal dollars don't operate the same as initial dollars, especially in these days of corporations who concentrate wealth.

@44 . . . I know you don't care much for my opinion, but stop spending.

[KKB]

44

KKB prefers a TRULY even playing field.

Basic capitolism at its best.

Hard work = better pay
shitty work= shitty pay

Remember the old story about the ant and the grasshopper?

Too many grasshoppers around here, grasshopper!

Your president is also clueless... why did he bring Clinton in to speak for him today and THEN he left early during the press conference so he could attend a holiday party with his you're my best friend wife....

CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN!!!

STUPID ASSES!! Obama is the worst president ever

[44]

Even? Blue collar, proponent of tax cuts for rich, anti-deficit and clueless.

Spending? Good half answer. Given your silence during the Bush years, did that revelation come with any guilt?

[Mighty Mouse]

I'm not sure how the characterization of silence during the Bush years is apropos. As I have stated before, I do not vote in elections nor involve myself in politics as a matter of my faith. However, I have always stuck by the tenet that less government is always more.

Let's put it this way. Both presidents have spent money we don't have and won't have in the near future. But who's the one still spending?

What exactly would be considered not being silent during the Bush years?